YouTube Web Service That Will Shock You


I thought I’d seen everything online. I also thought I was a savvy Internet marketer, until I received an e-mail about two new websites today that will shock you.

I received an e-mail from someone who had watched one of my educational attorney videos on YouTube. He was promoting a company that he claims to have used in order to increase the number of views that YouTube logged each time his video was watched. The website is http://tubeviews.net. I was curious, so I decided to check it out. I was stunned. No, shocked is a better word. This website guarantees that if you pay them $29.99, they guarantee 20,000 YouTube views. If you want 50,000 YouTube views your cost is $64.99. They guarantee 500,000 YouTube Channel Views for
only $320.99

Even more astonishing was that this company promised to provide a certain number of ratings to each of your YouTube videos that you paid for. I was even further amazed to learn that this company will provide generic comments about how good your video is, provided you pay a fee. For 50 video ratings the cost is $30.99. For 200 ratings the cost is $105.99. If you want them to leave unique and customized comments they charge anywhere from $14.99 for 10 unique comments, all the way up to $149.99 for 200 unique comments.

I sent an e-mail to this company and to another one asking for further explanation as to how they can guarantee these enormous amounts of views provided you pay their fee. I have also asked them to explain the ethical concerns I have about placing generic [FALSE] comments about a video simply by paying a fee. Finally I have asked them whether YouTube has sanctioned what they are doing.

Importantly, I’ve come across certain attorney videos that have inexplicably received astronomical views. From my point of view those particular videos that I have seen with these crazy views were poor in quality, were unimaginative, and were extremely lengthy and frankly, boring. Yet for some unexplained reason these videos garnered more than 60,000 views.

Now while I don’t know exactly how those attorneys accomplished such astronomical views for such an awful video, one can only wonder whether they used a service like the one I’ve discussed in this post.

I was always under the naïve assumption that people watch videos because they were interested in the topic. I also assumed correctly, that my competitors were trying to learn what I do as well. Unlike pay per click programs, YouTube does not charge for the number of clicks or views on any video. However, a video with a greater number of views is presumably more relevant and important to the search engines. Ah, there’s the rub.

Pay a fee; get more views; YouTube thinks your video is important; your video gets ranked higher in the video search engine results. Lots of questions and problems with this “system.”

“HELLO YouTube!” if you are listening, you would be wise to check out this service to see if it complies with your terms of service.

My recommendation: Stay far away from services like tubeview.net and marketingofyoutube.com.

As an attorney, you have an ethical obligation to present yourself in a fair and accurate manner. If you are using a service to promote your videos, one could argue that you are inflating the true value and importance of what you have to say. You don’t want a bar association or state grievance committee making legal precedent because you were so eager to promote your videos.

P.S. This was the reply I received moments ago from marketingofyoutube.com: “Oh i am sorry , our views service is temporary stopped due to some reason.” Interesting.

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13 Responses to YouTube Web Service That Will Shock You

  • ppartridge says:

    Very interesting is right… I think this falls under the caveat that if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

  • Tom says:

    wow, thanks for posting this gerry. attorneys really need to be super careful about any services like this. It’s just wrong and google (which owns youtube) will catch them sooner enough.

  • gyi tsakalakis says:

    Thank You! Next, can you do something about lawyer spam blogs? They are all over the place and lawyers don’t seem to have a problem with this practice.

    Thanks again for the great post!

  • Charles_KnNell says:

    Gerry,

    Good article! But, don’t be so sure you have shut these guys down. The people you are dealing with are not concerned about delivering long term value to the customer. They are simply manipulating youtube rankings for their customers. And, they probably can get away with it for a time. Some of them take full advantage of the fact that the law may allow what they do in their jurisdiction. Some are just thieves who have set up a few examples and will never deliver anything. Some will just stop you and the rest of New York State from seeing the site, and keep their game going until it doesn’t work any more. Selling bad products or services is not new, but it’s much cheaper and easier on the internet. What makes it not ethical is the fact that they are misleading the customer into believing that it’s OK to manipulate their rankings in youtube.com. In FACT, it is NOT OK with youtube.com. It will not work in the long term, and even could get them banned from youtube.

    Charles
    Ethical Marketing

  • davidp says:

    Wow! I was thinking there was some kind of angle with these guys when I saw the website. It takes effort to market anything you can’t pay and have it done for you!

    David Powers
    http://teamworkrevolution.blinkweb.com/

  • cbe79 says:

    You’d be amazed at the sophistication of their spam… My solicitation came with tag lines to make it appear relevant to my videos (Religious Music). I’m always the skeptic of course, especially when it comes to my money. So I checked out the website quite guarded already. I just laughed of the idiocy of the idea, and in general anyone who would use such a service. Beyond the ethical issues (which of course is heightened for my genre of videos), it’s just… stupid. Yeah, maybe you’ll make it to the top of searches. Though I think people are generally smart enough to see BS for what it is. It won’t help anyone make back the money they spent, let alone any more that would make it worth while.

  • Uppal Insurance says:

    Thank you very much for this post. We just received this comment on our youtube yesturday:

    “I Love this Video and also I checked out your Channel. Very interesting! If you need any help getting this Video and your Channel exposed to where it is on top in all the searches. I found this site called tubeviews.(net) that has took my breath away….”

    Thank you again for the heads up!

    Uppal Insurance
    http://www.youtube.com/user/SecreteAgentUppal

  • thomas says:

    This is Thomas with Tubeviews.net. I am very very upset with the type of article that is stated and especially the comments that stated agreeing with it. Now I’m not surprised though. We are not educated on how Youtube is structured. We are not educated on anything of Youtube. All they say is here is a free video service, upload your video, here is a pat on the behind and good luck with people viewing your video.

    I am one of two owners of this service. I am a programmer, network specialist, web developer, rtc/rtf server tech etc… We have been into the beautiful world of computers for over 26 years.

    This is one of those type of services that are so unique and seem to be very close to the thin line of being right or wrong. Ask ten people. Would you rather have control over your rankings in a pure safe way by using our services or would you rather not and just hope for the best? Come on 9 our of 10 would pick to have control by using our service. Users, this is youtube, youtube, a free video service.

    Makes me think back 2 weeks ago, I received a call from a guy, and this guy was crying his eyes out. He has lost his job that very week at the begging of the week and had 3 kids and all he had was a small online business he was been trying to build up on the side but of course have not got anywhere with it. He ran across our site through google and went out of faith and tired us out. I spend time with this user like I try to do with all, and really explained our services and the whole tech. side to it as well. He was a tech. Because of our services his video had been pushed up in rankings and had started receiving traffic to his site like wild fire. He has started getting sign ups right and left and was crying to me on the phone and do you know the feeling of being able to help someone out, especially on a level as that. That was a Blessing to us and especially a blessing to him.

    Now to Charles_KnNell who stated, “The people you are dealing with are not concerned about delivering long term value to the customer.” This is a statement that of course can’t be held up because you would have to know us personally and sit and watch our business on a long run to make a statement as that. We are two Christian men that love to help people out and love to be able to be in the position to help people out.

    Now to answer this quote by Charles_KnNell, “In FACT, it is NOT OK with youtube.com. It will not work in the long term, and even could get them banned from youtube.”

    This isn’t a fact this is an opinion. Let me explain. This will work in the long term and no you will not get banned and actually it will be impossible to get banned from using our service. We have invested over 20K in our business so far for the “long run”. We run our own rtc/rtf servers that obtains over 500,000 fresh level 1 proxies at all time. When using our services, every single element that you receive, Channel Views, Ratings, Favorites, Comments are not different, even technically then as if they were done by people all around the world. These are Real Channel Views that you receive, These are Ratings that you receive, etc… etc… We are not like your average services as these. Most are just teenagers using scammy software but we do it the right way. We do it the most safest way that it can be done. If you received 100,000 Channel Views, 50 Ratings, 50 Favorites, and 25 Comments from actual real real people and then got it from us, there would be not difference at all, and I mean at all but the real people. They look exactly the same to youtube. That is why we are the most popular Tube Service and that is why we havn’t been shut down!

    We do over 300 sales a day, we have huge accounts with millionaires all they way to the political scene. Believe it or not, Services as these have always, always been around. You have just had many many users try to mimic the real thing once software came available to do different things. The services have always been kept under the radar and only accessed by them most elite. As famous actors, music star trying to get popular, and etc…

    We are just he first, that I know of, that are as professional as it gets, that have actually went public with it.

    We are not mad at any of you that have commented what you have commented. The view on something is only as clear as the amount of knowledge you have on it.

    We are not lairs, we do not mislead our customers, we ARE NoT in it for the short run. We try our hardest to educate every single one of our customers. You have to in this business because Youtube has not and will not teach you the aspects of there system.

    We have been a Blessing to so so so many people, I have over 1200 emails of people thanking us from the bottom of there heart. We are not here to scam, we explain our business the best we can on our site, we are just giving users actual control that the don’t have at all without our service.

    You have to think about this from this angle. We are young Christian men with families. I just had my first baby boy 4 months ago. To see a blog speaking so bad about us with users actually commenting doing the same and most of it is just from lack of understanding how we are structured, it hurts! Imagine if it were you. I know in any business there are always going to be people with negative things to say. please take this blog down. We have done nothing wrong to you all we are trying to do is help.

    If anyone comes to our site from this blog I will give our services to them for 50 percent off. And to the actual owner of this blog I will give you a package deal, we now have custom packages at the bottom of site, if you do take this blog off we will give you the package of your choice for 90 percent off. I would do it for free but we have to take in something per sale.

    If anyone comes from this blog email us first, and let us know, I’m not here though to try to get business, we get over 300 sales a day, i’m very startled by this and wanted to just make everything clear.

    Thanks a bunch and God Bless every single one of you.

    Thomas and Shannon
    with tubeviews.net
    3man productions inc.

  • thomas says:

    This is Thomas with Tubeviews.net. I am very very upset with the type of article that is stated and especially the comments that stated agreeing with it. Now I’m not surprised though. We are not educated on how Youtube is structured. We are not educated on anything of Youtube. All they say is here is a free video service, upload your video, here is a pat on the behind and good luck with people viewing your video.

    I am one of two owners of this service. I am a programmer, network specialist, web developer, rtc/rtf server tech etc… We have been into the beautiful world of computers for over 26 years.

    This is one of those type of services that are so unique and seem to be very close to the thin line of being right or wrong. Ask ten people. Would you rather have control over your rankings in a pure safe way by using our services or would you rather not and just hope for the best? Come on 9 our of 10 would pick to have control by using our service. Users, this is youtube, youtube, a free video service.

    Makes me think back 2 weeks ago, I received a call from a guy, and this guy was crying his eyes out. He has lost his job that very week at the begging of the week and had 3 kids and all he had was a small online business he was been trying to build up on the side but of course have not got anywhere with it. He ran across our site through google and went out of faith and tired us out. I spend time with this user like I try to do with all, and really explained our services and the whole tech. side to it as well. He was a tech. Because of our services his video had been pushed up in rankings and had started receiving traffic to his site like wild fire. He has started getting sign ups right and left and was crying to me on the phone and do you know the feeling of being able to help someone out, especially on a level as that. That was a Blessing to us and especially a blessing to him.

    Now to Charles_KnNell who stated, “The people you are dealing with are not concerned about delivering long term value to the customer.” This is a statement that of course can’t be held up because you would have to know us personally and sit and watch our business on a long run to make a statement as that. We are two Christian men that love to help people out and love to be able to be in the position to help people out.

    Now to answer this quote by Charles_KnNell, “In FACT, it is NOT OK with youtube.com. It will not work in the long term, and even could get them banned from youtube.”

    This isn’t a fact this is an opinion. Let me explain. This will work in the long term and no you will not get banned and actually it will be impossible to get banned from using our service. We have invested over 20K in our business so far for the “long run”. We run our own rtc/rtf servers that obtains over 500,000 fresh level 1 proxies at all time. When using our services, every single element that you receive, Channel Views, Ratings, Favorites, Comments are not different, even technically then as if they were done by people all around the world. These are Real Channel Views that you receive, These are Ratings that you receive, etc… etc… We are not like your average services as these. Most are just teenagers using scammy software but we do it the right way. We do it the most safest way that it can be done. If you received 100,000 Channel Views, 50 Ratings, 50 Favorites, and 25 Comments from actual real real people and then got it from us, there would be not difference at all, and I mean at all but the real people. They look exactly the same to youtube. That is why we are the most popular Tube Service and that is why we havn’t been shut down!

    We do over 300 sales a day, we have huge accounts with millionaires all they way to the political scene. Believe it or not, Services as these have always, always been around. You have just had many many users try to mimic the real thing once software came available to do different things. The services have always been kept under the radar and only accessed by them most elite. As famous actors, music star trying to get popular, and etc…

    We are just he first, that I know of, that are as professional as it gets, that have actually went public with it.

    We are not mad at any of you that have commented what you have commented. The view on something is only as clear as the amount of knowledge you have on it.

    We are not lairs, we do not mislead our customers, we ARE NoT in it for the short run. We try our hardest to educate every single one of our customers. You have to in this business because Youtube has not and will not teach you the aspects of there system.

    We have been a Blessing to so so so many people, I have over 1200 emails of people thanking us from the bottom of there heart. We are not here to scam, we explain our business the best we can on our site, we are just giving users actual control that the don’t have at all without our service.

    You have to think about this from this angle. We are young Christian men with families. I just had my first baby boy 4 months ago. To see a blog speaking so bad about us with users actually commenting doing the same and most of it is just from lack of understanding how we are structured, it hurts! Imagine if it were you. I know in any business there are always going to be people with negative things to say. please take this blog down. We have done nothing wrong to you all we are trying to do is help.

    If anyone comes to our site from this blog I will give our services to them for 50 percent off. And to the actual owner of this blog I will give you a package deal, we now have custom packages at the bottom of site, if you do take this blog off we will give you the package of your choice for 90 percent off. I would do it for free but we have to take in something per sale.

    If anyone comes from this blog email us first, and let us know, I’m not here though to try to get business, we get over 300 sales a day, i’m very startled by this and wanted to just make everything clear.

    Thanks a bunch and God Bless every single one of you.

    Thomas and Shannon
    with tubeviews.net
    3man productions inc.

  • Jeremy Dawes says:

    i think perhaps it is worth trying the service and see if it really does work. for a small fee it is a relatively low risk for the possibility that it could work.

  • MISS CARINA OF TAMPA says:

    someone just left a comment on my wig video with this bs i knew when i heard it it was crazy i put my video out there for a particular audience “wig lovers” i want my video to be watched for real why post a video only to cheat the system to get views it means your video is not interesting because you are paying for comments and views this is not fair to real youtubers like me

  • Randyb says:

    I havent seen anyone complain that these guys have ripped them off, just that people assume theyre ripping someone off. What they do is bring your video high up in the searches so people will find your videos before other, similar videos. Its kind of like have a big add in the yellow pages rather than just a one line add. If they actually deliver the views and arent ripping people off then I dont have a problem with them. In the end its the real youtube users that are important to you. If they dont like you, your talent or your business, then getting all the views in the world wont change that. Youtube is using every one of us to make millions and using a service like this is just like paying to advertise on TV.. you could try and find a TV show that wants to show your business or you can pay for advertising. If you use the service and it works and they deliver then they did a great job. If they take your money and dont deliver then they should be taken to court as con artists. Thomas has replied here and explained what they do from his side and I respect that. All ive seen of complaints is because theyve advertised their business in a slightly dishonest way on peoples youtube videos, not that they dont deliver the promises. So they advertise like a politician and lots of other businesses without disclosing all the facts and costs etc. Like an airline advertisng a flight price and the taxes and fees being in the tiny print or a new car price compared to the real, drive away price. We all know its them when they say I use this service in the messages they leave on youtube. Well they really do use it because its them promoting them. This is just a new way of building and promoting your business, just like advertising in the Yellow pages, but you by using youtube. Wether its ethical is up to you. Its no different to how you view everything in life. Like if you feel Multi level marketing is ethical or wether you think its not ok but its ok to buy from Kmart and give your money to a huge corporation instead. If they deliver the number of generated views and bring your video up to the top so you get just as many, if not more, real views, then I dont have a problem with it. Only if they take my money and I dont get the advertising I payed for. In the end its the real views that decide if you or your product is good and the generated views dont matter squat.
    Randyb@bnis.net.au

  • Rich Rodriguez says:

    Thank you for your post.

    I received the following email Friday from someone under the online handle “ShortyBannis” a few hours after I uploaded three Christian slideshow videos to my YouTube channel:

    ShortyBannis has made a comment on Autumn in Lemon Creek (2008):
    Nice Video. If you need any help getting your video exposed check out this site called w w w . t u b e v i e w s . n e t It has really
    done wonders for me, I have built 3 channels up with videos at top in position, this is my forth channel I’m going to working on now.

    Sorry for the spaces in between each letter, some reason Youtube will not let you give an actual address in a comment. Real weird well have a Blessed day!

    ps. I really liked your channel!Even though “Thomas from Tubeviews.net” is defending his company with a sob-story testimonial that is supposed to make us feel sorry for him as a persecuted Christian, and it is replete with the evangelical lingo that arouses emotions and is to make us trust him BECAUSE he is a brother in Christ, I’m not buying it, and I AM an evangelical Christian.

    The clandestine way “ShortyBannis” contacted me, the questionable business practices concerning pay-for-comment viral marketing, and false statement that YouTube does not allow URL’s in viewer comments betray the faith Thomas claims to profess. tubeviews.net (without spaces) is probably not allowed because YouTube has flagged it as a fraud, hence the end-run with spaces inbetween.

    Also, a red-flag warning for me is when the English grammar in the email is horribly bad, and is not in the slang or lingo of short text messages a la Twitter or cell phones. I believe that it may be automatically computer-translated from another language without double-checking its prose.

    I created my YouTube channel a few months ago as an outlet for the slideshow videos I create for my church and my personal animated movies. I also enjoy emailing and sharing with other YouTubers about my interests in animation and classic television. While I do not get 50,000 hits a day, I am very happy with my YouTube service and do not need Tubeview’s questionable and unethical service.

    While Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior (John 3:16) and I am not ashamed to say so, He also gave me brains to use and I am accountable for how I use them. I recommend everyone, Christian or not, to stay away from any company claiming to boost your YouTube ratings for a fee. If your videos are good quality and find a niche audience, your channel will sell itself.

    Rich Rodriguez
    West Covina, CA

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